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	<title>Comments on: A Peek Into the Lives of Undocumented Workers in Seoul</title>
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		<title>By: cher</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7756</link>
		<dc:creator>cher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to jill: sorry i&#039;m not really familair with the medical terms but i only reiterated what the filipina told me, so i wasn&#039;t aware if what she told me was right or wrong.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;cher´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://chersurvivingkorea.blogspot.com/2009/06/thanks-to-yangju-police.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thanks to Yangju Police&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to jill: sorry i&#8217;m not really familair with the medical terms but i only reiterated what the filipina told me, so i wasn&#8217;t aware if what she told me was right or wrong.</p>
<p>cher´s last blog post..Thanks to Yangju Police</p>
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		<title>By: arvinsign</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7753</link>
		<dc:creator>arvinsign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wendy..my worry is that things like this is becoming normal to the point that many people thinks its worth the risk anyway.  I dont understand why some Filipinos can find ways to make themselves useful to the society in general by following the law, while others simply cannot.  Its selfishness i guess. As ive said the problem here are not those people reporting (for whatever reasons), but those people committing the wrong thing.  I dont see any logic or rationale for condoning people (Filipino or not) who reports the wrong person and the wrong act to the authorities (regardless for money or for what), especially if the person who committed the wrong act is very much aware of what he/she is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wendy..my worry is that things like this is becoming normal to the point that many people thinks its worth the risk anyway.  I dont understand why some Filipinos can find ways to make themselves useful to the society in general by following the law, while others simply cannot.  Its selfishness i guess. As ive said the problem here are not those people reporting (for whatever reasons), but those people committing the wrong thing.  I dont see any logic or rationale for condoning people (Filipino or not) who reports the wrong person and the wrong act to the authorities (regardless for money or for what), especially if the person who committed the wrong act is very much aware of what he/she is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7742</link>
		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arvinsign - you&#039;re right. these kind of individual stories will never end and undocumented Filipinos will always be a problem, both to the individual themselves and to the government. if i may add, they will also always be a problem to those legally staying Filipinos who are affected by the general perception accorded to these illegal Filipinos.

ideally, i would also want these illegal practice to end. but how? individually, we can&#039;t do anything because choices were and are being made by thinking individuals who are willing to risk the consequences to earn. we could only wish for ourselves but it might be too presumptuous to wish for other&#039;s welfare who wishes otherwise than what we wish for them (like, wishing for them not to be domestic helpers but for all we know, being domestic helpers and earning dollars - or won - is an achievement for them and their family already). 

in addition, i feel bad for those who are being deported because a fellow Filipino reported on them. if no filipino was involved, so be it. it&#039;s the right of the korean government to conduct raids. 

last, even if it is in the police power of the Korean government to deport illegal workers, they don&#039;t do it full blast. they could just go to Hyewha on Sundays and demand for the necessary documents. they don&#039;t. why? in reality, both governments benefit. the korean government through the employers benefit from cheaper labor; the Philippine government, through employment for its people. so, we wish and we want to get rid of these illegal Filipinos - for whose benefit? not for the Korean government, not for the Philippine government, not for these individual people with individual stories to tell. we may only be wishing and wanting for the ideal for OUR INDIVIDUAL SELVES to make us feel good individually... but it&#039;s tantamount to letting others live in hunger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arvinsign &#8211; you&#8217;re right. these kind of individual stories will never end and undocumented Filipinos will always be a problem, both to the individual themselves and to the government. if i may add, they will also always be a problem to those legally staying Filipinos who are affected by the general perception accorded to these illegal Filipinos.</p>
<p>ideally, i would also want these illegal practice to end. but how? individually, we can&#8217;t do anything because choices were and are being made by thinking individuals who are willing to risk the consequences to earn. we could only wish for ourselves but it might be too presumptuous to wish for other&#8217;s welfare who wishes otherwise than what we wish for them (like, wishing for them not to be domestic helpers but for all we know, being domestic helpers and earning dollars &#8211; or won &#8211; is an achievement for them and their family already). </p>
<p>in addition, i feel bad for those who are being deported because a fellow Filipino reported on them. if no filipino was involved, so be it. it&#8217;s the right of the korean government to conduct raids. </p>
<p>last, even if it is in the police power of the Korean government to deport illegal workers, they don&#8217;t do it full blast. they could just go to Hyewha on Sundays and demand for the necessary documents. they don&#8217;t. why? in reality, both governments benefit. the korean government through the employers benefit from cheaper labor; the Philippine government, through employment for its people. so, we wish and we want to get rid of these illegal Filipinos &#8211; for whose benefit? not for the Korean government, not for the Philippine government, not for these individual people with individual stories to tell. we may only be wishing and wanting for the ideal for OUR INDIVIDUAL SELVES to make us feel good individually&#8230; but it&#8217;s tantamount to letting others live in hunger.</p>
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		<title>By: eden</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7735</link>
		<dc:creator>eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nakakainis nga po yung mga &quot;choochoo&quot; [mga sumbungero]. Kahit saan po yata may ganun. As far as I could remember, dito po last year, $500 per head.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;eden´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://chizkulet.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-proposal/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Proposal etc.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nakakainis nga po yung mga &#8220;choochoo&#8221; [mga sumbungero]. Kahit saan po yata may ganun. As far as I could remember, dito po last year, $500 per head.</p>
<p>eden´s last blog post..The Proposal etc.</p>
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		<title>By: arvinsign</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7734</link>
		<dc:creator>arvinsign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading some of the comments above regarding stories like this is quite frustrating. These kind of stories will never end, and the solution to these problems is not to get rid of filipinos reporting other filipinos (illegal/undocumented), but to get rid of filipinos risking themselves coming over here and later on stay illegally. Its not about inggit, walang pakikisama, or money etc...the keyword to this problem is ILLEGAL. I will not acquiesce to anything illegal, if i am a socially responsible and sane person. Problems like these exists anywhere and everywhere and should be viewed in general (and its effect to the policies concerning hiring of filipino migrant workers here in korea or elsewhere) rather than picking and sympathizing on individual stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading some of the comments above regarding stories like this is quite frustrating. These kind of stories will never end, and the solution to these problems is not to get rid of filipinos reporting other filipinos (illegal/undocumented), but to get rid of filipinos risking themselves coming over here and later on stay illegally. Its not about inggit, walang pakikisama, or money etc&#8230;the keyword to this problem is ILLEGAL. I will not acquiesce to anything illegal, if i am a socially responsible and sane person. Problems like these exists anywhere and everywhere and should be viewed in general (and its effect to the policies concerning hiring of filipino migrant workers here in korea or elsewhere) rather than picking and sympathizing on individual stories.</p>
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		<title>By: jill</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7733</link>
		<dc:creator>jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to cher: i hope u will take this with no malice..but maybe you mean, the baby swallowed his/her own feces(meconium) not its mother&#039;s...because the fetus floats inside your uterus- which is way down of your stomach and out of the way of the large intestine..so if the baby &quot;poops&quot; inside it has the tendency to swallow it..and you can check it if your bag of water(at delivery) is clear or stained (meconium-stained)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to cher: i hope u will take this with no malice..but maybe you mean, the baby swallowed his/her own feces(meconium) not its mother&#8217;s&#8230;because the fetus floats inside your uterus- which is way down of your stomach and out of the way of the large intestine..so if the baby &#8220;poops&#8221; inside it has the tendency to swallow it..and you can check it if your bag of water(at delivery) is clear or stained (meconium-stained)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Maria@Conversations with Moms</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7732</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria@Conversations with Moms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Marife finds a solution for her family soon.  It must be hard to be away from your loved ones for so long.  It makes me appreciate my situation.

Thanks for sharing and opening my eyes to other cultures.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Maria@Conversations with Moms´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/conversationswithmoms/WXCH/~3/J0kCzapVajY/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Friday Frustrations - Things in Pockets and Bed Sheets&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Marife finds a solution for her family soon.  It must be hard to be away from your loved ones for so long.  It makes me appreciate my situation.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing and opening my eyes to other cultures.</p>
<p>Maria@Conversations with Moms´s last blog post..Friday Frustrations &#8211; Things in Pockets and Bed Sheets</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marami ako kakilalang undocumnted Filipinos d2, and they usually told me hindi sila ntatakot sa mga Koreans kundi sa mga kapwa Pinoy.at bakit naman kc nagsusumbog ang Pinoy na to sa kinauukulan?because they receive big money for that.may presyo bawat isang tao.Sguro nangangailangan din cla.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marami ako kakilalang undocumnted Filipinos d2, and they usually told me hindi sila ntatakot sa mga Koreans kundi sa mga kapwa Pinoy.at bakit naman kc nagsusumbog ang Pinoy na to sa kinauukulan?because they receive big money for that.may presyo bawat isang tao.Sguro nangangailangan din cla.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina T</title>
		<link>http://myrockingcradle.com/2009/06/a-peek-into-the-lives-of-undocumented-workers/comment-page-1/#comment-7730</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very sad to hear these stories.  I can&#039;t imagine having to live my life in fear like that and not know who I could trust.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tina T´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.luvemorleavem.com/blog/2009/06/24/if-he-wants-to-marry-you-he-will-ask/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If He Wants to Marry You, He Will Ask&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very sad to hear these stories.  I can&#8217;t imagine having to live my life in fear like that and not know who I could trust.</p>
<p>Tina T´s last blog post..If He Wants to Marry You, He Will Ask</p>
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		<title>By: SI PI EY on Board</title>
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		<dc:creator>SI PI EY on Board</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hindi ko talaga maintindihan thinking ng ibang tao. if may galit or inggit man sila sa iba, mas mabuti pang wag na lang nila pakialamanan di ba? instead na magsumbong sumbong pa sila.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;SI PI EY on Board´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://onceinabluemoondiary.blogspot.com/2009/06/youngest-senior.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Youngest Senior&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hindi ko talaga maintindihan thinking ng ibang tao. if may galit or inggit man sila sa iba, mas mabuti pang wag na lang nila pakialamanan di ba? instead na magsumbong sumbong pa sila.</p>
<p>SI PI EY on Board´s last blog post..Youngest Senior</p>
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