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Filipino English Teachers for Korea

While we were at Lotte World last Sunday, my Korean friend asked me if I want to be an English teacher here in Korea. She is an English teacher in one of the schools in Gangnam. She is one of the earliest Korean friend I have here in Seoul and she has always been eager to do things for me. Sometimes, I feel her eagerness is too much but that’s just the way she is. Early last year, she asked her school to hire me on a part-time basis since I have a toddler to take care of. She also told the school that I am a Filipino and they were willing to take me in. All I had to do was say “yes”. All these she did without telling me first:-). Back to the present, she reported last Sunday that the Korean government is opening up its English education to Filipino teachers in the near future.

What did I get on my email today? An email from Koreajoblink.com with the subject “Philippine English Teachers for Korea“. The email is not offering a teaching job… not yet, anway. It is merely informing that the Korean public school system is planning to hire exceptional Filipino teachers to teach conversational English with the following qualifications:

  • Bachelor’s or higher degree in education/English major (other majors may be possible)
  • teacher’s license (or certificate)
  • teaching experience (minimum 2 years)
  • clean police record

From the email, Koreajoblink is already accepting resumes but it is very clear in the email that as of the moment granting teaching visa to Filipino teachers is not yet “100% decided”. I am sure this news will be promptly received with enthusiasm. I just hope that this will not give false hopes to those who THINK they are qualified.

Personally, I declined my friend’s offer to work in a school because:

  • I don’t have a teaching degree (my law units is not tantamount to a teaching degree)
  • I don’t have a teaching experience

I know that there are many Filipinos back home who are tutoring Koreans in several hagwons scattered across the nation without any teaching degree but I don’t think that’s enough credential to boast to come over. Let’s admit it, most tutors back home started as undergraduate working students. The ability to speak and write English well is not enough credential to teach effectively either. Neither is PASSION to teach. Bottomline is, there are credentials to follow. Classic example, Betchay of Buhay sa Korea took an expensive TESOL course in preparation for a teaching/academy management career.

From several blogs I read, there are very defensive Filipinos questioning the Korean government’s current decision not to employ Filipinos as English teachers. Some are very full of angst about the Korean government’s discriminating policy. My take is, if you don’t want to be discriminated why insist on coming over? Be somewhere where you will not be discriminated to avoid perennial whining:-) Peace! Hehehe. There is no room for BEGGING when you know you are qualified. It’s just like, you don’t beg Samsung or Procter and Gamble or San Miguel to take you in as an employee even if you have a long list of credentials in your resume. You look for a company which needs you and your credentials… or wait until your “dream company” has a position ready for you. But while they do not have one for you, don’t go around town full of angst and whining about your lack of oppotunity because of the discriminating policies within.

I also don’t think the chance to teach here in Korea is a battle between “white versus brown”. While the earlier program of Korea was not strict with teaching degrees from people from the United States, Canada and New Zealand it is undeniable that they have what we Filipinos do not have. Accent. The accent that Koreans want to have. While I personally do not think that accent does not make other people superior over us, we could not just overhaul the whole Korean way of thinking. If they want accent, let them go for it. It’s their money, anyway. They also go to the Philippines to spend money. We’re happy about that:-).

Anyway, the Koreajoblink email advises that in the meantime:

  • Get your passport.
  • Get references
  • Check your criminal record
  • Get familiarized with American accent and intonation
  • Get more teaching experience

Goodluck!

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  1. “From several blogs I read, there are very defensive Filipinos questioning the Korean government’s current decision not to employ Filipinos as English teachers. Some are very full of angst about the Korean government’s discriminating policy. My take is, if you don’t want to be discriminated why insist on coming over?”

    ABSOLUTELY!

    I agree with you! Why should Filipino keep on insisting to come over if they are complaining for discrimination.

    Anyway, I think, if the Philippines could have a good English Teacher, they must not have to teach in Korea. In fact the Philippines needs them and Filipino needs more time to be consider as 3rd largest English speaking country in the world because still many Filipinos could not speak English well

  2. Hi, My name is Gilbert, I had been teaching English here in Korea for two and a half years and I know how painful it is to discriminated being non-native English teacher. Just like arvinsign mentioned, I am one of the “accidental teachers”. My major is Science, had been teaching English to Korean college students while I was in our country, Philippines. Had worked for couple of years in a call center, but I still believe that my English is not perfect. Accent is one serious thing most Koreans are concerned of, grammar is not even a primary objective to most of them who wanted to learn English. I have no problem with accent as I’ve mentioned, I used to work in a call center but I need to improve my teaching skills, more training to enhance my qualifications as a an English teacher.

  3. Are native speaking English teachers better qualified to teach English than non-native speaking English teachers? Since living in Korea for more than six years, I have asked myself this question countless times. Non-native speakers of English, especially non-white Asians, face a difficult task finding quality teaching positions.

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  5. Harry Chung
    Times Search/ Koreajoblink.com
    Official recruitment body for SEOUL OFFICE OF EDUCATION

    Latest update about opening the opportunity to Filipino…

    Our Ambassador and Phils government already decided not to pursue to ask that chance. Don’t give false hope. Our country is earning more now from Korean tourist than sending ESL teacher in your country.

    No thanks…

  6. Many good points. ^^. Go for a company who is looking for whatever skills you have, and if your credentials that fit their search, good for you. Don’t push yourself in in a job that you lack experience, requirements of whatsoever.

    As for online teaching, yes there are lots of teachers who are undergraduates, from different courses. but that’s not enough to teach in a school setting. It is much more different to teach in a classroom than online.

    I am an online teacher and I have also tried teaching in a classroom setting so I can differentiate the two. My Korean students are sweet and lovely that sometimes I wanna go there and hug them. haha
    Someday I’m going to teach there. ^^.

    Peace on Earth. haha

  7. To all dreamers of teaching English to Korea:

    Stop dreaming! It will never happened for Filipino English teacher to be hired in South Korea as long as Hon. Luis ( Phils. ambassador to SK) is in the office.

    Or even if it changed to another ambassador… it will not ever happened.
    Our government was the one don’t want to pursue for SK open their door for teachers. You’re just wasting your time of dreaming and waiting.

    Therefore, if there will be somebody will tell you or offers you, like asking you to be trained to speak Hangeul for possible teaching job in SK legally… don’t believe. It is just a false hope!!!

  8. hi miss issa,,im totally new on this OFW thing. You’re most certainly right..that’s y i want to get a teaching assignment in the most “legal” way. I don’t want to go under the table and do visa runs every other month to teach! i have enaf qualification if i may say so..with regards to dubai…there are many agencies here in the philippines hiring EL tchers bound for dubai, but can u please give me an idea bout the average wage of EL teachers in dubai? i heard its not as big as korea or japan..thanks 🙂

  9. Hi, Miss Wendy.. I came across ur blog while searching for job opportunities for ESL teachers like me. I’m currently here in Dubai, where English instructors are not highly in demand..

    You have a well-written argument. I esp. agree with the point that we don’t need to beg if we’re qualified..

    ‘will be coming back..^^

  10. hi,,im wondering if there are any updates on the issuance of working visa for filipino teachers..I recently finished the Cambridge CELTA, i have a BA degree wd a major in English, I have an Unfinished masters in literature, but being a non-native speaker does not qualify me for the e2 visa. I don’t have the thick Filipino accent and can be tagged as sounding like native. But the online agencies are still keen on the “native speaker” qualification. I don’t know if its wise to apply in korea knowing that I’ll most likely be rejected even with my credentials. Are there any other ways by which I can get a working visa and work as an english teacher in korea or japan? Thank you. I hope u can advise me on this 🙂

  11. hi everyone,

    are there still a lot of openings for english teachers in korea? and does discrimination against non-native teachers still exist? i graduated from ADMU and i was wondering what my chances are of getting a job in korea. thanks for your replies!

  12. I posted the same reply on buhaykorea. 🙂

    This is really great news! However, I hope that they have a good screening process because there are still lots of ‘teachers’ (specifically online teachers) who fail to use the English language proficiently. I’m just bringing this up because we need to prove that we, Filipinos, are capable of speaking and teaching proper English.

  13. hi i am pinoy,one of the university in Korea invited me to work as a manager of English zone cafe..pwede ba me maka work?
    thank for the reps.

  14. In my experience as an online English teacher and administrator (I do have a center in Makati), hiring for a ‘good’ (meaning someone who can actually converse and not just speak in simple classroom English) is like finding a needle in a stack of hay. To say that it is very difficult to find a good teacher, is an understatement. It is a struggle, with mushrooming English centers and call-centers around.

    Even the ones with BS in English and with years of experience would still struggle to actually ‘talk’ and express their views in English. I once hired a teacher whose bf was an American GI in Korea. The bf used to joke her, saying ‘you call yourself an English teacher yet you can’t talk to me easily’. I thought that was a silly joke, but there’s some truth to that if we look beyond the surface. Learning a second language is owning the language and actually speaking it on a daily basis and speaking it in a way that you will be understood (maybe that’s where accent comes in) because verything that matters really is to communicate to everyone, using English as a tool. And so if the other end failed to understand, then you failed to communicate. Period.

    I wonder how Korean teachers teach English if they can’t or they have difficulty speaking it in the first place. (I know they can’t, or at least majority, if not all of them, because we teach Korean English teachers online)

    It’s it’s the same banana with Filipino English teachers. During interviews, I ask all sort of questions and the way they (the applicants) respond makes me go “uh-oh, are you sure you can teach?’ (if you know what I mean)

    With the native speakers on the other hand, I wonder how they teach a second language if they have never experienced going through learning and using a second language themselves.

    And I am wondering, how come we get enrolles online who had YEARS of Hagwon experience and yet they always seem to be ‘lost in translation’ when talking to us over the phone? We get students who almost perfected (this is of course an exageration) all the known tests, the likes of TOEIC, etc and yet…and yet, a simple ‘how are you’ question cannot be answered by anything more than ‘so-so’ What on Earth have they learned? Where’s English in the toungue?

    Learning is application, not merely memorization. And one can NEVER learn by just answering workbooks after workbooks as ‘studying’ method. So to all teachers in Korea, be it native or non-native or whatever we’ll call them altogether in the future, you can only say you have succeeded to teach English if your students actually speak English fluently. I know that’s a big challenge but only then can you say that you are indeed a ‘good’ teacher. Practice speaking English well, on a day to day basis, by it, with it and through it can you learn the language.

    My two cents. 🙂

  15. Very informative. You’ve got a point when it comes to Filipinos complaining and are over-defensive when being discriminated by the Koreans as English teachers. And very objective indeed.

  16. thanks for the confirmation… I also heard it straight from my korean student, he was encouraging me to try, But I guess you’re right. It’s not final yet, but they are considering it, due to the fact that korean government pay native speakers high pay. Filipinos have proven their ability teaching korean students for years already.

    Im one of them, so good luck to those who will try to apply.

    thanks.

  17. Greetings everyone….

    I’ve agree with Cher, Arvinsign and Allain’s opinions…. I’ve been teaching in korea for 5 months now with other asian teachers and we have been experiencing discrimination and hearing (……..???????!!!!!!) comments in and out of our teaching places about “Filipino English”… Ask for me, I have my own way of sharing my Filipino English ability but its totally different from those natives… I’m paid to what and how I could teach… I’m just glad though, that I got the chance to teach … What I’m doing now is learning american accent, diction and pronunciation.. It’s what the Koreans want… give it……

  18. hi arvinsign, hi apo – thanks for the visit. but, i think my post is not the venue for your kind of “chat” now. cheers!

  19. To arvinsign:

    Firstly, I kinda miss your cute “smileys”…they are noticeable non-existing in your latest reply. Why abandon the “smileys”? Keep them coming, please.

    Our last argument, in another blog…uhhhmmm. Have we actually “conversed” before? Have you been following me? Now I am really flattered!

    Tease…well rather TEASE is another cute word. But I don’t tease and certainly dont bully…oh rather BULLY also.

    Are you so hungry for a discussion now? Are you now thirsty for an intelligent battle of the minds? Are you still looking for a comment to piggy-back on? Are you dying to have another topic to respond on as oppose to your own? Well, ok let me open one for you…

    Lastly, for the sake of argument? Well, sorry…I dont want to argue. Though, I wonder why you always want to argue.

    And oh…I dont believe you are a caveman– you got to support this with your facts and references for me to believe this. But dont be too subjective, ok?

  20. “But let me direct you to my response to the author of this post as to the reason why”

    – yeah thats a safe answer. or are you scared that whatever idea you will post here will be pointless, in the same way we had in our last argument in the other blog site? Cool. im right, its really you.

    “”About the Troll, I never thought I was like that…But if I am indeed inflaming you…then I maybe I am””

    – que????

    “They’re cute but so uncavemanly”

    – i guess this is the only thing you can do. TEASE and BULLY. Geez grow up. Can you provide facts? Can you write something sensible enough for a discussion? Obviously you cannot. So if you have anything in mind, just post it here, and then we can invite others for a healthy discussion. just dont be too subjective.

    ok for the sake of argument, im a caveman. happy? now wheres your sensible comment or take on the topic or at least disagreement with any statement i said?

    peace

  21. To arvinsign:

    Ohhh…I forgot. I like all your ‘smileys’ plastered all over you post. They’re cute but so uncavemanly

  22. To arvinsign:

    Let me see…uhhhmmm….I agree that you are not a caveman! I am not a caveman to think that you are a caveman– thinking that way is just too cavemanly!

    I dont have a negative perception of you. Because I dont know you– and I dont know any caveman as well.

    If I haven’t post anything on this topic yet…well, sorry to disappoint you. But let me direct you to my response to the author of this post as to the reason why. Which I suppose you have read already and understood– it doesn’t take a caveman to understand the simplicity of such response.

    About the Troll, I never thought I was like that…But if I am indeed inflaming you…then I maybe I am…But I don’t think you should be inflamed– at least, no caveman would be.

    About me being a christian…uhhhmmm…wait…this is a trap…uhhhmmm…i don’t want to be caught here…uhhhmmm. Ok! I will confirm/deny this if you promise not to tell others…caveman’s honor?

  23. “You even responded to those comments I have for others and not for you. ”

    — im not a caveman..its obvious you have nothing else in mind..but me 🙂 Besides this kind of response, is common in all blog sites. i think the real problem in your case is because you already have a negative perception of me and its swallowing you. If you can try to be more objective, we dont need to discuss about this. There are so many things to discuss that can at least benefit the other readers

    “”its not true because you are not really that important””

    — True. i admit that. I am not important 🙂 ok then lets discuss now,

    So since im not important at least for you…then POST something relevant to the topic instead of focusing 100 pct of your thoughts on me 🙂

    Seriously until now, i haven’t seen any single sentence or phrase that you posted that has something to do with the title “Filipino English Teachers in Korea”, all are directed against me and my way of writing.

    In case you dont know what a TROLL means here it is from the Dictionary

    “”1b. Noun
    A person who, on a message forum of some type, attacks and flames other members of the forum for any of a number of reasons such as rank, previous disagreements, sex, status, etc.
    A troll usually flames threads without staying on topic, unlike a “Flamer” who flames a thread because he/she disagrees with the content of the thread.””

    —Share something you know and post your take on any article here. and then we discuss. thats better right?

    Regarding your YES answers to the questionnaire (assuming you are serious 🙂 Of course im proud of you, im proud of everyone. But then, i will feel more proud of you if you can take the TESOL later or at least prove yourself a good teacher to your students, good luck.

    PS

    i know youre a christian 🙂

  24. You are just so amazing ARVINSIGN! You really make smile with all the attention I am getting from you. You even responded to those comments I have for others and not for you. You must really be a sensitive person and perhaps, becoming too sensitive (perhaps, paranoid?) to even think that all comments are for you…well, of course, its not true because you are not really that important…oh…well, its just my opinion– a personal one.

    And sorry if you think I am bullying…I didn’t intend it that way but pardon me if you feel bullied.

    Oh! I did answer your questionnaire…It’s all YES for items A-F. Aren’t you just proud of me?

  25. “”When somebody claims to know a lot–with references, proofs, figures, etc.– then I believe they should put up their own blog and not just piggy-back or carry on from the thoughts of others.””

    – Nice point. Now you are expressing your own take on things. This is better. But please, i didnt claim i know a lot 🙂 . And besides, you nailed it well. That is your belief, and i dont share it. So i will just respect that

    I have a blog, but its not a blog about current events and news makers like most of the blogs that im subscribing with. Its a photography blog, and i dont write my personal thoughts about the photos i took except for the titles. I dont even have a FS, ,multiply, facebook etc. Im not a fan of that.

    Ive been posting comments for years (originally from forums), and i started with pEX. Then i tried posting on blogs, but very few of them. The blogs im subscribed with represents only a very small fraction of the total websites where i post my comments. So do you think that still warrants a personal blog? Its like there are at least 20 websites where i usually post a comment, around 15 or 16 of them are not blogs but current events sites, online news, relevant to my field etc…while 4-5 of them are personal blogs including this one.

    “”But we do have to accept the fact that when we blog and when we make comments on blog it reflects our personal views and personal take on things. Our comments reflect our personal experiences and our personal interpretations in whatever subjects we are talking about. Even if we flood our comments with statistics, figures, research percentages, etc…it will still in the end be a reflection of our personal thoughts- whether we agree or not or stay neutral.””

    — Its not a fact. Its your opinion. Primarily because i dont bite on that idea. There is a concept of a “devil’s advocate” in every discussion. I think its a healthy thing. Personal thoughts varies greatly from different people. Its obvious that im not a fan of any subjective comment, unless it was intended as a humor.

    “”But for the sake of the other readers of this blog, could you just give us your references and proofs to make you come up with the following checklist to establish who or what is a good English teacher.””

    — Do you seriously think that someone will spend a dime to conduct a research study hence a scientific data for something like this? hey dont be too serious. And as ive said before i made that checklist, “its my personal take” and its more of a sarcastic humorous comment (and opinion)

    That means thats how i view it and i know i dont share the same opinion as others especially with the offended and guilty subjects of that comment. Its the same thing, when i said im agnostic and i think all religious people are blah blah blah. Christians cursed me for that :)..

    and a questionnaire? 🙂 hehe thats funny. So maybe heres how it will go

    Subject: Filipino English Teachers for Koreans

    Pls check the answer that is most applicable

    1. Why do you think you are qualified to teach English as a second language to Koreans/ or why do you want to do it?

    a) My mother told me
    b) I think i am good (and pretty)
    c) I have a very good website
    d) Im popular in my town
    e) Because Korea is my dreamland (i want to go there and see my fave k-pop artists and drama actors)
    f) Im jobless so i NEED a job , besides im a Filipino which means im a good English speaker
    G) Im certified in TESOL and obtained an advance degree in English literature, linguistics etc.
    H) Im qualified since i took accredited trainings relevant to this job, as well as degrees

    so the point here is if YOUR answer to this question is G or H. I dont think you will react to my sarcasm. if the answer is either A-F, then the ego was hurt and the reaction is different.

    and since you are asking for proofs…hmm read similar blogs articles relevant to English teaching and read all the comments. You know that already i guess

    “”Come on, this is your chance to prove to us that you actually have ammunitions of references to back up your claims.””

    — us? why are you dragging others with you in your trolling?

    “”But knowing you, I think you would say “It’s not my duty to prove to you or to anybody what I say”…or something like that (because maybe you will use more high-polluting words).””

    – That means you really saw my posts in other websites thats why you have your own version of how i think 🙂 for the sake of the readers too..just use your original nickname, and dont use alter nick. Besides we are just having conversation here.

    Im looking forward for a healthy dialogue with you or with anyone. Pick a statement that i made (or any opinion i expressed), then if you dont agree with it, express it and provide some reasons . Then we will start from there, and i will provide stats if necessary so no more bullying ok?

    Peace

  26. To arvinsign:

    I am starting to really get flattered right now. I really don’t deserve your attention…I really don’t.

    But for the sake of the other readers of this blog, could you just give us your references and proofs to make you come up with the following checklist to establish who or what is a good English teacher.

    1. You think you are good (and everything else about you)
    2. Your mother told you
    3. Your Korean students told you (who doesnt even know how to assess qualifications)
    4. You write perfect English in all your comments and personal blogsite (with emphasis on highfalutin words, thanks to Thesaurus)
    5. Everybody (from your small hometown) seems to adore you because of your English skills

    Was there actually any scientific research done before that actually used the questionnaire list? Come on, this is your chance to prove to us that you actually have ammunitions of references to back up your claims.

    But knowing you, I think you would say “It’s not my duty to prove to you or to anybody what I say”…or something like that (because maybe you will use more high-polluting words).

  27. To wendy:

    Yes! Your post is interesting. And I think you pretty much shared enough information that needed to be shared. I will not add more and pretend that I know more. Just not in my character to pretend to know more things that the original author– otherwise I would have then my own blog and write about it.

    When somebody claims to know a lot–with references, proofs, figures, etc.– then I believe they should put up their own blog and not just piggy-back or carry on from the thoughts of others.

  28. To youngmom:

    Yes! I agree. I am not taking this personally. However, let me qualify by saying that I dont take it personally in an emotional negative way (alternative, having a personal grudge). But we do have to accept the fact that when we blog and when we make comments on blog it reflects our personal views and personal take on things. Our comments reflect our personal experiences and our personal interpretations in whatever subjects we are talking about. Even if we flood our comments with statistics, figures, research percentages, etc…it will still in the end be a reflection of our personal thoughts- whether we agree or not or stay neutral.

    I do appreciate people who take blogging “seriously” and make their comments a “personal” one.

  29. @ youngmom

    i mentioned that same line over and over again. “there’s nothing personal”.the only problem is that there are so many sensitive people who dont want their opinions to be contrasted..and will deviate from the topic of the blog, and will resort to a personal attack.

    try to go over the other blog sites, you will see the same signature of responses whenever i write or comment on something

    peace

  30. ooppsss!! (this will not contribute to the topic)

    don’t take yourself so seriously…walang personalan, blog lang..

    peace!!

  31. @ APO

    🙂 try harder. Where is the substance?

    so im just curious..regarding substance…have you made any comments in this blog relevant to the topic? Because i haven’t seen any. Of course i respect your right to make comments, and YES its a free world. What im saying is this blog is not for personal attacks or for bashing of someone, if you want to bash me, then at least CONTRIBUTE something to the topic..so that the space will not be wasted.

    In your case, i noticed you seem to react ONLY after my comments and will never ever contribute to the topic. Maybe you have nothing in mind, i dont know. I want to see your take on the topic, and then we will start from there.

    And dont be too flattered about my lengthy response to you..most of my comments are like that or even longer. Discussion is a healthy thing, but only if it does contain informations.

    I received lots of hate emails, and hate comments recently, im sure you are one of them. So i supposed, you are a troll. Why are you afraid to use your original nickname? I know, because readers here knows you.

    APO, for the sake of this blog contribute to the topic, then include your expression of hatred of me at the end if you wish.

    and by the way forget that bitterness you feel about me, life is short so move on.

    cheers

  32. To Arvinsign:

    Wow! You do like writing do you? And I am so flattered to even deserve that much of a response from you (sorry for the owner of this blog…arvinsign is occupying too much of your disk space…well…ahem ahem…for my behalf)…

    But trust me, I dont have a personal grudge on you…I dont even know you and frankly, I dont think you deserve it…I am just making short comments on your comments…its a free world…isnt it?

    And ohhh…I didnt actually say that your a good writer…but if you want to feel that way, I will give you that! I feel good when I make people smile…

    See! Short, simple, direct to the point and full of SUBSTANCE!

  33. @ APO..

    i know you are a troll…:)

    Anyway to answer your comment. (im flattered hahaha) i never thought someone would even consider my plain (and oftentimes erroneous English and way of writing as highfalutin 🙂 its so damn simple that even the most stupid person will understand it plain and simple…If you are viewing it in a negative way, that is because you have a personal grudge against me. Well, i hope you can be more objective than sensitive.

    Whats so highfalutin with my comments? Do you know if i even have a blogsite? Is it advertised here or is my name directed to a link? NO.

    “”ARE YOU TRYING TO DESCRIBE YOURSELF HERE?””

    — NO. Seriously im sorry if YOU find my posts a bit difficult to understand. I really thought im writing it plain and simple..you are quite different. Figure out in what way. And I AM NOT an English Teacher…please read carefully.

    “”Is this a case of “it takes one to know one”? I just have this feeling that you have the concious intention to make people aware that you are a good writer on blogs and use high-polluting words””

    — NO. and thanks by the way for referring to me as a good writer. 🙂 I am not. One thing i can be proud of my comments though is the substance, If i claim something i have means to prove it and i can provide reference. Im not what most people who will attack someone personally and will not even contribute a substance regarding the topic. It is objective, and it hurts i know. You were hurt before, and this is your way of biting back.

    Do you even have something to say about the topic before you even decided to question me? If you can contribute at least a sentence or two regarding the topic which is “Filipino English Teachers for Korea”, then everybody will appreciate it.

    If you want to bash me all your life, then do it if that will make you happy. You can follow all my comments in many newspaper articles like KT, Koreabeat etc. and some blogs I’ll wait for you there. But please contribute something about the topic.

    “”What dictionary/thesaurus are you using? Wont hurt to share…””

    — Can you cite any word/words that i used that seems too difficult for you, since you are assuming im using a dictionary/thesaurus??

    Anyway if you want a Thesaurus. Try Roget’s its a good buy.

  34. To Arvinsign:

    “4. You write perfect English in all your comments and personal blogsite (with emphasis on highfalutin words, thanks to Thesaurus)”

    ARE YOU TRYING TO DESCRIBE YOURSELF HERE? Just out of curiosity…Is this a case of “it takes one to know one”? I just have this feeling that you have the concious intention to make people aware that you are a good writer on blogs and use high-polluting words…What dictionary/thesaurus are you using? Wont hurt to share…

  35. @ wendy

    “”Comparative Literature, English literature, etc. – “”– this field REALLY needs a highly qualified English Teacher. This is quite difficult for most.

    in one my posts in Buhay sa Korea, i mentioned that i prefer English teachers with a BS or Graduate degree in English, English Linguistics, English Teaching..or at least an above average score in any certification exam (TESOL etc). Then a lot of training in improving teaching skills too.

    I think thats the qualification that is needed. If we can market Filipino teachers with the above qualifications, then the image of Filipino teachers (English) will improve greatly..at least in Korea.

    I maybe wrong about this. But i think one of the reasons we dont have enough qualified Filipino English teachers here in Korea is because of the lack of competition. At least for me, most of the Filipino teachers that i know are more of incidental teachers, or teachers by chance. There’s opportunity and the town doesnt have enough money to hire a native speaker, or there is no one around..and the filipino was there, literate enough to read and write in English much to the amazement of the Koreans..and presto..he/she is hired. Now does he/she have the right qualifications as mentioned above? Maybe yes, maybe No. From my experience most that i know are not. My English is far from perfect, and this is not my field, and i dont have a plan of doing it either as part time or full time job. I always believe that we should fit our skills where it is supposed to be. But most of the filipino teachers (except for some few really good ones), im always startled and dismayed with their skills as an English teacher….and mind you..they are always complaining about the “unfair” compensation between native and non-native speakers. 🙂

    The same thing is happening in Pinas, for those teaching English to Koreans, online or one on one. Very few of them are qualified. But of course, there are those who seems to be over qualified in contrast.

    If the Korean Govt will issue a working visa for Filipino English teachers (or any non native english speakers), then i think it is really good for pinoys.

    One thing is that it will result to an influx of applications, and the professional and really qualified ones will join the bandwagon. With that scenario, a rigid screening will follow. With a rigid screening, everyone else will strive for the best to improve their skills and qualifications..and the net result is lots of QUALIFIED teachers.

  36. hi jehan, i know some Filipinos working as English teacher in Bangkok. They have very good qualifications and they teach Humanities subjects – Comparative Literature, English literature, etc. – I have very high regard for them:-)

  37. i have friends having the time of their lives teaching english somewhere in Thailand…

    i receive mails from readers asking about situations in teaching english here.. some say i’m living their dream (naku)… since im still a newbie also, i just tell them “honestly” what i know, what i experience… it’s also difficult to sugarcoat the real situation… so that they’ll just know…

  38. hi cher – well, patience is a virtue:-) i’m also taking care of a toddler. so far, i don’t feel any restlessness to go out there and be competitive again. my son’s frequent hugs and kisses and “i love my mommy” make me so settled in domesticity hehehe. jasmine’s case happened at the right time and with the right people and she’s one great example of positive immersion into the Korean culture. betchay, whose toddler is now in daycare, is slowly going out of her way, too. she’s a weekly guest in tbs efm:-). so, i’m sure your opportunity will come…

  39. wendy: honestly, i really want to pursue foreign service(that’s my dream)….but since that might be quite impossible( i have no idea how to do it….i tried looking for jobs from U.N. related agencies in Korea and I failed….T:T) because I already have a baby to take care of….I don’t know maybe later on when I get lucky about it who knows…right?

    cher´s last blog post..English Teaching Training Program for Foreign Wives

    1. Hi. I happen to browse on this thread and I find the topic relevant to my question. I want to butt in, po :). Anyway, my question is: Are there any employment prospects for a Filipina with a law degree and no solid work experience (fresh graduate), in South Korea? I have a bachelor’s degree from UP and an expected law degree from the Ateneo. I will graduate this October and take the BAR by next year.

      The twist is that, I have a Korean boyfriend for four years now. We are planning to get married by next year and settle in Seoul eventually after my BAR.

      I really dream of becoming a lawyer and of course practice it if circumstances permit. But for now, I’m not really sure what my prospects are in Seoul aside from teaching English. 🙂

  40. hi cher – i actually read your post about it re: training for foreign wives. that’s good to hear. i wish you well. though, remember i told you about another Pinay working for UNESCO. she had masters degree in public ad both from the philippines and a university here in korea. you might want to explore that path kung may opportunity, di ba? i mean, you have your own masters degree so might as well take the road less travelled:-). nakialam ba ako hahahaha.

  41. ah maybe that’s why gyeonggi province offered free english teaching training program for foreign wives…..kkkk.

    arvinsign:

    “I know that there are many Filipinos back home who are tutoring Koreans in several hagwons scattered across the nation without any teaching degree but I don’t think that’s enough credential to boast to come over. Let’s admit it, most tutors back home started as undergraduate working students. The ability to speak and write English well is not enough credential to teach effectively either. Neither is PASSION to teach. Bottomline is, there are credentials to follow.”

    – very good point. I hope our fellow pinoys will realize this.

    ** I agree with you ….if ever I do decide to pursue this career I will surely follow the footsteps of Betchay and take a TESOL course and get the certificate. …or better yet take advantage of the prorams that the government is offering for foreign spouses in Korea…..kkkkk.

    “Philippines is the cheapest alternative as compared to US, UK, NZ and Australia. And thats one of the major reasons. Not all Koreans are rich and affluent (so they cant afford the above countries), but almost all of them want to learn English, in one way or another.

    **well said! some koreans also go for the philippines just to warm up their skills and practice conversation….so that when they go to US, UK, NZ and Australia, they can at least utter a word or two.

    cher´s last blog post..English Teaching Training Program for Foreign Wives

  42. hi arvinsign – fortunately for you my blog site is not as popular as Betchay’s so i don’t think you will have lengthy reactions here. LOL.

  43. “I know that there are many Filipinos back home who are tutoring Koreans in several hagwons scattered across the nation without any teaching degree but I don’t think that’s enough credential to boast to come over. Let’s admit it, most tutors back home started as undergraduate working students. The ability to speak and write English well is not enough credential to teach effectively either. Neither is PASSION to teach. Bottomline is, there are credentials to follow.”

    — very good point. I hope our fellow pinoys will realize this.

    “While the earlier program of Korea was not strict with teaching degrees from people from the United States, Canada and New Zealand it is undeniable that they have what we Filipinos do not have. Accent.”

    — Agree. Unfortunately there is too much self confidence in many pinoy teachers especially those teaching English to Koreans (of course not all). Some even pointed out that the reason why many Koreans go to the Philippines is because of Filipino competitiveness with regards to teaching English. Well in many ways, its true..but in reality (if people will only wake up from their fantasies), Philippines is the cheapest alternative as compared to US, UK, NZ and Australia. And thats one of the major reasons. Not all Koreans are rich and affluent (so they cant afford the above countries), but almost all of them want to learn English, in one way or another.

    And to find a bride? im not sure.

    “”My take is, if you don’t want to be discriminated why insist on coming over? Be somewhere where you will not be discriminated to avoid perennial whining:-)””

    — True. My personal take is …(for prospective teachers)

    if you can be accepted as an English teacher/instructor/Professor in at least any of the Top 10 Universities in the Philippines (which we know is more rigorous than any Hagwon here in Korea), then probably the boasting is true. But if you just feel like you are a good English teacher just because ; (either)

    1. You think you are good (and everything else about you)

    2. Your mother told you

    3. Your Korean students told you (who doesnt even know how to assess qualifications)

    4. You write perfect English in all your comments and personal blogsite (with emphasis on highfalutin words, thanks to Thesaurus)

    5. Everybody (from your small hometown) seems to adore you because of your English skills

    ..then think again. Maybe a little bit of training is needed. There’s nothing wrong about that. There is always room for improvement.

    And…the extreme nationalism thing and over defensive nature with regards to racism..stop it.

    Peace.

    PS..

    Im sure there will be lots of trolls who will react on this message (the guilty ones with their 10 nicknames) 🙂 but its ok

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